This is the line I hear ALL the time, "Well, it's my first baby, and my mom and my relatives and friends say I probably am not strong enough to give birth naturally, so I'll try it out at the hospital first, and then when the next baby comes, I might want to do the gentle birth thing...if I can." Sigh. And then they come back to me with PTSD, other traumatic experiences and emotions, and a baby with all sorts of problems from early inductions, c-sections, etc....and many times, I can't get a midwife to agree to help with their second birth because they are now labeled "VBAC", "high risk", and on and on. This is a US tragedy. I haven't seen it in many other countries. No European woman I've ever met will say to me, "Oh, my body is not able to give birth- it's a lemon."